All of this starts to make sense when you think about a company that wants to be more than just social media and messaging and wants to actually be the place that you spend all of your time when you're online. It explains why the company has an interest in developing cryptocurrency, explains why the company's put so much effort into the backend interoperability, if it's various apps. And it really explains a lot of the other Zuckerbergian ambitions that we've heard about lately. Like if I want to buy an NFT hat, I can wear it in the metaverse.ĪP: Exactly. It's kind of pushing the physical world into the digital one. And then you might move into a video game, and you bring a sort of cohesive identity with you through all these spaces, but they're not really physical spaces. You might be working remotely on a different planet in the metaverse, and then you might move into a sort of shopping mall where you get to buy things, like real things, you're paying real digital money for. It sounds so dystopian.ĪP: A lot of what we thought was this idea that you'll have an avatar that moves through various spaces online. "It's an embodied internet," Mark Zuckerberg said.
And like you experience people not as these little boxes in Zoom, like we are right now as we tape this podcast, but they are around you. It's still a place where apps run and exist, and developers will be building for the metaverse, but it's supposed to create this kind of persistent experience of connectivity, where you go from one virtual space to the next, and you can bring your digital assets with you from space to space. And the metaverse is kind of the next version of this, where it extends beyond, or sort of transcends, the current internet. The way in which we experienced the web 20 years ago was very different from the way we have experienced it over the past decade or so with mobile phones in our hands, and the way in which we share information with apps and pull or receive information from apps. My answer was, it depends on who you ask, but the most consistent description I've heard from different technologists is that it is the successor to the mobile internet. LG: I'm happy to take a stab at this, because I just went on the BBC earlier this week at an ungodly hour in the morning, Pacific Coast time, to talk about this. MC: Can we just take a moment? And I know we've done this on the show before, but can we define what the metaverse is? Because we all sort of had an idea of what it was, going into Facebook Connect today, and I think it's probably changed. On the other hand, it has this new thing called Facebook Reality Labs, which is the new home for all of its products that deal with the metaverse and whatever else the future of computing looks like. LG: Back up just a little bit, because earlier this week, Facebook reported its third-quarter earnings, and it talked about how it was going to break apart some of the top line for another one of its divisions, right? So there are all these different products and divisions of Facebook, tell us how that works and how it's going to be broken out now.ĪP: The Facebook that you know right now, which Facebook sometimes calls the family of apps-Instagram, WhatsApp, Oculus, stuff like that-is now going to be broken into this division that it calls the Family of Apps.
This is supposed to signal that the company is not just a social media company anymore. Arielle, what are we supposed to be calling Facebook? Tell us about this.ĪP: The company formerly known as Facebook is now called Meta, as in metaverse, as in a metastasizing cancer, as AOC tweeted today. I don't even know if we should be calling it Facebook right now. And we heard about Facebook's name change. We heard a little bit more about Mark Zuckerberg's vision for what the metaverse will look like. We saw a bunch of new stuff that is supposed to enable developers to build things for this idea of the metaverse.
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They had their annual software developers conference, held virtually on Thursday. In case you haven't been refreshing your newsfeed this week, there's a lot of news out of Facebook. LG: Well, we're talking about Facebook again. You could be in Nazare.ĪP: Let's just say I'm inside of the mind of Mark Zuckerberg. LG: We're also joined in the metaverse by WIRED senior writer Arielle Pardes, who joins us from … where are you, Arielle?Īrielle Pardes: Does it really matter in 2021 where we are, if we're all in the metaverse?
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